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CIP-0085: Add Talos as Weight 7 SV

cip-discussCIP-00855 messagesstarted 08-09-2025
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  1. #1DrAmandaLMartin08-09-2025source ↗

    Please see below open for discussion:

    Number: TBA
    Title: Add Talos as Weight 7 SV
    Author(s): Anton Katz
    Discussions-To: TBA
    Type: Governance
    Status: Draft
    Created: 2025-09-05

    Abstract

    This CIP preserves Coin Metrics’ existing Weight 1.0 Super Validator under CIP-0046 and adds an escrowed, outcome-linked maximum earnable Weight of +7.0 for Talos. The incremental weight mints only upon Accountability Subcommittee verification of adoption milestones across: 

    1. Canton Coin (CC) trading/custody readiness via Talos

    2. pX integration to Canton

    3. Measured production usage through defined trading and settlement volumes

    Motivation

    The proposal ties incremental SV rewards to real usage and service quality — readiness, live flows, and operational performance — consistent with community precedent. The objective is to broaden CC access through Talos integrations, demonstrate private institutional settlement on Canton (pX), and reward verifiable adoption with outcome-based tranches. 

    Rewards are broken down into two key initiatives:

    1. Establish Talos platform-wide support for CC across trading (exchange and OTC) and custody integrations. Integrate CC in the Security Master and adapters so order lifecycles, RFQ flows, deposits/withdrawals, and address whitelists work out of the box. Commit to activating CC at any connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of their enablement, so clients can use existing workflows without changes.

    2. pX is Talos’ stand-alone agency trading desk geared to expedite client onboarding into the crypto ecosystem. It faces upstream exchanges/market makers and downstream institutions, managing credit and post-trade workflows across venues and custodians. pX computes obligations off-chain and would route bilateral settlements through Canton, providing private, confirmed settlement with counterparties - bringing real institutional settlement volume onto Canton and showcasing the network’s privacy and auditability.


    Deliverables for full SV Reward:

    Deliverable

    Acceptance Criteria

    Deadline

    Weight Earned 

    CC Support and Readiness across Talos

    Platform Ready for CC
    * CC Market Data captures set up, metrics calculation configured 

    * CC added to Security Master; routing/risk parameters configured. 

    * Exchange and OTC adapters CC-capable (order lifecycle & RFQ schemas). 

    * Custody modules CC-capable (addresses/whitelists, deposit/withdraw callbacks). 


    Prove it works in UAT / Sandbox

    * UAT demos: one exchange trade flow, one OTC RFQ flow, one custodian transfer 

    * Add support for CC by default in clients’ sandbox environments

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    + 1


    CC Support Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +90 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1 Bonus if delivered +45 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +45 and +90 days

    Example: If delivered in +54 days, Talos is awarded +0.8 SV Weight 

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1

    CC Support Exchange Activation

    Once CC is available to trade at a Talos-supported venue…


    * Enable CC at any Talos connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of that counterparty’s enablement 

    * Publish a press release and/or marketing page announcing Talos support for CC (trading and custody workflows) 

    * If any partner lists CC, meet the ≤5-day activation timeframe and record one production flow 

    ≤ 5 Business Days from Talos-enabled Venue adding CC

    + 0.5

    CC Support Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $25M in CC traded through Talos during the window (aggregate across exchange and OTC) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated Talos trade records for CC (timestamped totals and methodology) submitted to the TWG for verification

    + 180 Days from first Venue Going Live

    + 0.5 per $25m of CC traded through Talos

    Max +1

    pX Settlement Support and Readiness

    pX Platform Ready for Canton Support


    * pX can create, send, receive, and mark complete settlements over Canton with a counterparty. 

    * Minimal fields: asset (Canton Coin and other supported Canton assets like USDC on Canton), quantity, counterparty, settlement date, reference. 

    * Supports both simple transfers and delivery-with-payment where the counterparty setup allows. 

    * Internal UAT demo: end-to-end flow using a Talos-controlled test counterparty. 


    Acceptance Criteria

    * ≥1 external counterparty completes ≥20 production settlements over Canton (any mix of CC and other supported Canton assets; same-day or value-dated). 

    * Publish basic ops stats for those 20: time from send to confirmation and success/failure counts. 

    + 180 Days from CIP Approval

    +1

    pX Settlement Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +180 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1.5 Bonus if delivered +60 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +60 and +180 days

    Example: If delivered in +120 days, Talos is awarded +0.75 SV Weight 

    +180 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1.5

    pX Settlement Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $1.5B in notional settled on Canton via Talos during the window (any supported Canton asset, incl. CC and USDC on Canton) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated settlement records (instruction counts, timestamps, asset, notional) and reconciliation methodology submitted to the TWG for verification

    +180 Days from pX Go Live

    + 0.5 per $1.5b of notional settled on Canton via Talos

    Max +1


  2. #2Chris Zuehlke30-09-2025source ↗
    All - I spoke with Anton from Talos about this proposal.  Dug into some of the details and asking a few questions around the scope of functionality & work.  
     
    I think what they are proposing to do would be a good addition to the network, but discussed reducing the weight a bit.  Ultimately we settled on reducing from 7 total potential weight to 6.5.   The 0.5 would be removed from the total potential acceleration bonus for pX integration, leaving it at +1.0 max linearly scaling along the original timeframe. 
     
    The new criteria language would be:
     
    • +0 Bonus if delivered +180 Days from SV CIP Approval
    • +1.0 Bonus if delivered +60 Days from SV CIP Approval 
    • Linear sliding scale between +60 and +180 days
    • Example: If delivered in +120 days, Talos is awarded +0.5 SV Weight 
    Weight Earned for this item will be updated to "Max +1.0".  Other edits associated with this change will be made throughout the CIP as well.
     
    Anyone have any additional thoughts/feedback?  I'm happy to create a new draft of the CIP to include this change if folks are interested in voting on the edited proposal.
     
    Thanks
    Chris
  3. #3Eric Saraniecki30-09-2025source ↗
    works for me - thank you for discussing with Talos 

    On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 12:22 PM Chris Zuehlke via lists.sync.global <czuehlke=drwholdings.com@...> wrote:
    All - I spoke with Anton from Talos about this proposal.  Dug into some of the details and asking a few questions around the scope of functionality & work.  
     
    I think what they are proposing to do would be a good addition to the network, but discussed reducing the weight a bit.  Ultimately we settled on reducing from 7 total potential weight to 6.5.   The 0.5 would be removed from the total potential acceleration bonus for pX integration, leaving it at +1.0 max linearly scaling along the original timeframe. 
     
    The new criteria language would be:
     
    • +0 Bonus if delivered +180 Days from SV CIP Approval
    • +1.0 Bonus if delivered +60 Days from SV CIP Approval 
    • Linear sliding scale between +60 and +180 days
    • Example: If delivered in +120 days, Talos is awarded +0.5 SV Weight 
    Weight Earned for this item will be updated to "Max +1.0".  Other edits associated with this change will be made throughout the CIP as well.
     
    Anyone have any additional thoughts/feedback?  I'm happy to create a new draft of the CIP to include this change if folks are interested in voting on the edited proposal.
     
    Thanks
    Chris


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  4. #4Chris Zuehlke07-10-2025source ↗
    All - Please see the below for the updated Talos SV CIP to be for a total potential weight of 6.5.  This was achieved by reducing the acceleration bonus for their pX product by 0.5.  Cumberland is prepared to sponsor the CIP, is anyone interested in endorsing it to start the vote?

    Thanks
    Chris
     
    ---------------------------------

    Number: TBA
    Title: Add Talos as Weight 7 SV
    Author(s): Anton Katz with edits from Chris Zuehlke
    Discussions-To: TBA
    Type: Governance
    Status: Draft
    Created: 2025-09-05

    Abstract

    This CIP preserves Coin Metrics’ existing Weight 1.0 Super Validator under CIP-0046 and adds an escrowed, outcome-linked maximum earnable Weight of +7.0 for Talos. The incremental weight mints only upon Accountability Subcommittee verification of adoption milestones across: 

    1. Canton Coin (CC) trading/custody readiness via Talos

    2. pX integration to Canton

    3. Measured production usage through defined trading and settlement volumes

    Motivation

    The proposal ties incremental SV rewards to real usage and service quality — readiness, live flows, and operational performance — consistent with community precedent. The objective is to broaden CC access through Talos integrations, demonstrate private institutional settlement on Canton (pX), and reward verifiable adoption with outcome-based tranches. 

    Rewards are broken down into two key initiatives:

    1. Establish Talos platform-wide support for CC across trading (exchange and OTC) and custody integrations. Integrate CC in the Security Master and adapters so order lifecycles, RFQ flows, deposits/withdrawals, and address whitelists work out of the box. Commit to activating CC at any connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of their enablement, so clients can use existing workflows without changes.

    2. pX is Talos’ stand-alone agency trading desk geared to expedite client onboarding into the crypto ecosystem. It faces upstream exchanges/market makers and downstream institutions, managing credit and post-trade workflows across venues and custodians. pX computes obligations off-chain and would route bilateral settlements through Canton, providing private, confirmed settlement with counterparties - bringing real institutional settlement volume onto Canton and showcasing the network’s privacy and auditability.


    Deliverables for full SV Reward:

    Deliverable

    Acceptance Criteria

    Deadline

    Weight Earned 

    CC Support and Readiness across Talos

    Platform Ready for CC
    * CC Market Data captures set up, metrics calculation configured 

    * CC added to Security Master; routing/risk parameters configured. 

    * Exchange and OTC adapters CC-capable (order lifecycle & RFQ schemas). 

    * Custody modules CC-capable (addresses/whitelists, deposit/withdraw callbacks). 


    Prove it works in UAT / Sandbox

    * UAT demos: one exchange trade flow, one OTC RFQ flow, one custodian transfer 

    * Add support for CC by default in clients’ sandbox environments

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    + 1

    CC Support Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +90 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1 Bonus if delivered +45 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +45 and +90 days

    Example: If delivered in +54 days, Talos is awarded +0.8 SV Weight 

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1

    CC Support Exchange Activation

    Once CC is available to trade at a Talos-supported venue…


    * Enable CC at any Talos connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of that counterparty’s enablement 

    * Publish a press release and/or marketing page announcing Talos support for CC (trading and custody workflows) 

    * If any partner lists CC, meet the ≤5-day activation timeframe and record one production flow 

    ≤ 5 Business Days from Talos-enabled Venue adding CC

    + 0.5

    CC Support Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $25M in CC traded through Talos during the window (aggregate across exchange and OTC) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated Talos trade records for CC (timestamped totals and methodology) submitted to the TWG for verification

    + 180 Days from first Venue Going Live

    + 0.5 per $25m of CC traded through Talos

    Max +1

    pX Settlement Support and Readiness

    pX Platform Ready for Canton Support


    * pX can create, send, receive, and mark complete settlements over Canton with a counterparty. 

    * Minimal fields: asset (Canton Coin and other supported Canton assets like USDC on Canton), quantity, counterparty, settlement date, reference. 

    * Supports both simple transfers and delivery-with-payment where the counterparty setup allows. 

    * Internal UAT demo: end-to-end flow using a Talos-controlled test counterparty. 


    Acceptance Criteria

    * ≥1 external counterparty completes ≥20 production settlements over Canton (any mix of CC and other supported Canton assets; same-day or value-dated). 

    * Publish basic ops stats for those 20: time from send to confirmation and success/failure counts. 

    + 180 Days from CIP Approval

    +1

    pX Settlement Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +180 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1.0 Bonus if delivered +60 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +60 and +180 days

    Example: If delivered in +120 days, Talos is awarded +0.5 SV Weight 

    +180 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1.0

    pX Settlement Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $1.5B in notional settled on Canton via Talos during the window (any supported Canton asset, incl. CC and USDC on Canton) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated settlement records (instruction counts, timestamps, asset, notional) and reconciliation methodology submitted to the TWG for verification

    +180 Days from pX Go Live

    + 0.5 per $1.5b of notional settled on Canton via Talos

    Max +1

  5. #5Eric Saraniecki07-10-2025source ↗
    DA will endorse

    Thanks for editing 

    toggle quoted message Show quoted text

    On Oct 7, 2025, at 3:28 PM, Chris Zuehlke via lists.sync.global <czuehlke=drwholdings.com@...> wrote:

    
    All - Please see the below for the updated Talos SV CIP to be for a total potential weight of 6.5.  This was achieved by reducing the acceleration bonus for their pX product by 0.5.  Cumberland is prepared to sponsor the CIP, is anyone interested in endorsing it to start the vote?

    Thanks
    Chris
     
    ---------------------------------

    Number: TBA
    Title: Add Talos as Weight 7 SV
    Author(s): Anton Katz with edits from Chris Zuehlke
    Discussions-To: TBA
    Type: Governance
    Status: Draft
    Created: 2025-09-05

    Abstract

    This CIP preserves Coin Metrics’ existing Weight 1.0 Super Validator under CIP-0046 and adds an escrowed, outcome-linked maximum earnable Weight of +7.0 for Talos. The incremental weight mints only upon Accountability Subcommittee verification of adoption milestones across: 

    1. Canton Coin (CC) trading/custody readiness via Talos

    2. pX integration to Canton

    3. Measured production usage through defined trading and settlement volumes

    Motivation

    The proposal ties incremental SV rewards to real usage and service quality — readiness, live flows, and operational performance — consistent with community precedent. The objective is to broaden CC access through Talos integrations, demonstrate private institutional settlement on Canton (pX), and reward verifiable adoption with outcome-based tranches. 

    Rewards are broken down into two key initiatives:

    1. Establish Talos platform-wide support for CC across trading (exchange and OTC) and custody integrations. Integrate CC in the Security Master and adapters so order lifecycles, RFQ flows, deposits/withdrawals, and address whitelists work out of the box. Commit to activating CC at any connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of their enablement, so clients can use existing workflows without changes.

    2. pX is Talos’ stand-alone agency trading desk geared to expedite client onboarding into the crypto ecosystem. It faces upstream exchanges/market makers and downstream institutions, managing credit and post-trade workflows across venues and custodians. pX computes obligations off-chain and would route bilateral settlements through Canton, providing private, confirmed settlement with counterparties - bringing real institutional settlement volume onto Canton and showcasing the network’s privacy and auditability.


    Deliverables for full SV Reward:

    Deliverable

    Acceptance Criteria

    Deadline

    Weight Earned 

    CC Support and Readiness across Talos

    Platform Ready for CC
    * CC Market Data captures set up, metrics calculation configured 

    * CC added to Security Master; routing/risk parameters configured. 

    * Exchange and OTC adapters CC-capable (order lifecycle & RFQ schemas). 

    * Custody modules CC-capable (addresses/whitelists, deposit/withdraw callbacks). 


    Prove it works in UAT / Sandbox

    * UAT demos: one exchange trade flow, one OTC RFQ flow, one custodian transfer 

    * Add support for CC by default in clients’ sandbox environments

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    + 1

    CC Support Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +90 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1 Bonus if delivered +45 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +45 and +90 days

    Example: If delivered in +54 days, Talos is awarded +0.8 SV Weight 

    + 90 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1

    CC Support Exchange Activation

    Once CC is available to trade at a Talos-supported venue…


    * Enable CC at any Talos connected venue or custodian within ≤5 business days of that counterparty’s enablement 

    * Publish a press release and/or marketing page announcing Talos support for CC (trading and custody workflows) 

    * If any partner lists CC, meet the ≤5-day activation timeframe and record one production flow 

    ≤ 5 Business Days from Talos-enabled Venue adding CC

    + 0.5

    CC Support Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $25M in CC traded through Talos during the window (aggregate across exchange and OTC) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated Talos trade records for CC (timestamped totals and methodology) submitted to the TWG for verification

    + 180 Days from first Venue Going Live

    + 0.5 per $25m of CC traded through Talos

    Max +1

    pX Settlement Support and Readiness

    pX Platform Ready for Canton Support


    * pX can create, send, receive, and mark complete settlements over Canton with a counterparty. 

    * Minimal fields: asset (Canton Coin and other supported Canton assets like USDC on Canton), quantity, counterparty, settlement date, reference. 

    * Supports both simple transfers and delivery-with-payment where the counterparty setup allows. 

    * Internal UAT demo: end-to-end flow using a Talos-controlled test counterparty. 


    Acceptance Criteria

    * ≥1 external counterparty completes ≥20 production settlements over Canton (any mix of CC and other supported Canton assets; same-day or value-dated). 

    * Publish basic ops stats for those 20: time from send to confirmation and success/failure counts. 

    + 180 Days from CIP Approval

    +1

    pX Settlement Acceleration Bonus

    +0 Bonus if delivered +180 Days from SV CIP Approval


    +1.0 Bonus if delivered +60 Days from SV CIP Approval 


    Linear sliding scale between +60 and +180 days

    Example: If delivered in +120 days, Talos is awarded +0.5 SV Weight 

    +180 Days from CIP Approval

    Max +1.0

    pX Settlement Adoption Bonus

    * +0.5 for each $1.5B in notional settled on Canton via Talos during the window (any supported Canton asset, incl. CC and USDC on Canton) 

    * Evidence: Aggregated settlement records (instruction counts, timestamps, asset, notional) and reconciliation methodology submitted to the TWG for verification

    +180 Days from pX Go Live

    + 0.5 per $1.5b of notional settled on Canton via Talos

    Max +1


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