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CIP Discuss- Setting Weights on Featured App Markers

cip-discuss6 messagesstarted 11-07-2025
  1. #1Chris Matturri11-07-2025source ↗

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.

  2. #2Moritz Kiefer14-07-2025source ↗
    Is the intention to have a weight per marker or per featured app party id? Your proposal sounds like per marker but it's not clear to me how you want to handle "all weighting decisions must be approved by network governance" in that case. You could reasonably enforce a maximum through governance maybe and then let the application choose but requiring governance decisions for individual markers doesn't seem realistic to me.

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    On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:52 PM Chris Matturri via lists.sync.global <chris=proofgroup.xyz@...> wrote:

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.



    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  3. #3Eric Saraniecki14-07-2025source ↗
    A weight per marker

    I'd ask if you could please focus on the technical aspects of the CIP while the committee discusses governance matters please 

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    On Jul 14, 2025, at 5:19 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Is the intention to have a weight per marker or per featured app party id? Your proposal sounds like per marker but it's not clear to me how you want to handle "all weighting decisions must be approved by network governance" in that case. You could reasonably enforce a maximum through governance maybe and then let the application choose but requiring governance decisions for individual markers doesn't seem realistic to me.

    On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:52 PM Chris Matturri via lists.sync.global <chris=proofgroup.xyz@...> wrote:

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.



    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  4. #4Moritz Kiefer14-07-2025source ↗
    Of course, the reason I ask is that often governance decisions from the committee are enforced on-ledger at which point it does become part of the technical aspects of the CIP. E.g., the decision on which apps are featured is reflected and enforced on-ledger.

    Do I understand it correctly that you do not expect the decision from the committee on which markers can have which weight to be enforced on-ledger other than maybe a maximum weight per party or through the ability to revoke the featured app right if it gets abused?

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    On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:07 PM W. Eric Saraniecki <eric@...> wrote:
    A weight per marker

    I'd ask if you could please focus on the technical aspects of the CIP while the committee discusses governance matters please 

    On Jul 14, 2025, at 5:19 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Is the intention to have a weight per marker or per featured app party id? Your proposal sounds like per marker but it's not clear to me how you want to handle "all weighting decisions must be approved by network governance" in that case. You could reasonably enforce a maximum through governance maybe and then let the application choose but requiring governance decisions for individual markers doesn't seem realistic to me.

    On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:52 PM Chris Matturri via lists.sync.global <chris=proofgroup.xyz@...> wrote:

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.



    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  5. #5Eric Saraniecki14-07-2025source ↗
    For now we anticipate the outcome of the decision to be reflected on chain

    Eg a set weight per marker

    I anticipate this may become some form of on-chain governance or data driven decision in the future but not at this time 

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    On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:16 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Of course, the reason I ask is that often governance decisions from the committee are enforced on-ledger at which point it does become part of the technical aspects of the CIP. E.g., the decision on which apps are featured is reflected and enforced on-ledger.

    Do I understand it correctly that you do not expect the decision from the committee on which markers can have which weight to be enforced on-ledger other than maybe a maximum weight per party or through the ability to revoke the featured app right if it gets abused?

    On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:07 PM W. Eric Saraniecki <eric@...> wrote:
    A weight per marker

    I'd ask if you could please focus on the technical aspects of the CIP while the committee discusses governance matters please 

    On Jul 14, 2025, at 5:19 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Is the intention to have a weight per marker or per featured app party id? Your proposal sounds like per marker but it's not clear to me how you want to handle "all weighting decisions must be approved by network governance" in that case. You could reasonably enforce a maximum through governance maybe and then let the application choose but requiring governance decisions for individual markers doesn't seem realistic to me.

    On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:52 PM Chris Matturri via lists.sync.global <chris=proofgroup.xyz@...> wrote:

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.



    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  6. #6Moritz Kiefer14-07-2025source ↗
    Discussed with Eric directly: The intention is that each marker has a weight but the weight is determined per featured app provider party so the same app cannot create markers with different weights. So just a relatively small extension to the governance process on-ledger where instead of just voting on a party being featured we also vote on its markers having a given weight.

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    On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:28 PM W. Eric Saraniecki <eric@...> wrote:
    For now we anticipate the outcome of the decision to be reflected on chain

    Eg a set weight per marker

    I anticipate this may become some form of on-chain governance or data driven decision in the future but not at this time 

    On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:16 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Of course, the reason I ask is that often governance decisions from the committee are enforced on-ledger at which point it does become part of the technical aspects of the CIP. E.g., the decision on which apps are featured is reflected and enforced on-ledger.

    Do I understand it correctly that you do not expect the decision from the committee on which markers can have which weight to be enforced on-ledger other than maybe a maximum weight per party or through the ability to revoke the featured app right if it gets abused?

    On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:07 PM W. Eric Saraniecki <eric@...> wrote:
    A weight per marker

    I'd ask if you could please focus on the technical aspects of the CIP while the committee discusses governance matters please 

    On Jul 14, 2025, at 5:19 AM, Moritz Kiefer <moritz.kiefer@...> wrote:

    
    Is the intention to have a weight per marker or per featured app party id? Your proposal sounds like per marker but it's not clear to me how you want to handle "all weighting decisions must be approved by network governance" in that case. You could reasonably enforce a maximum through governance maybe and then let the application choose but requiring governance decisions for individual markers doesn't seem realistic to me.

    On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:52 PM Chris Matturri via lists.sync.global <chris=proofgroup.xyz@...> wrote:

    Hello everyone- please find a CIP draft Eric & I have been working on ahead of the Featured App Markers going live on 7/29 to incentivize the real activity onchain we want to encourage vs traditional Canton Coin swaps.

    We welcome any feedback if people directionally support this before we go into planning phases of technical implementation + assigning weights. 


    Canton Improvement Proposal: Weighted Featured App Reward Markers

    Summary:
    This proposal introduces a framework for applying weighted multipliers to Featured App Reward Markers on the Canton Network. The objective is to create a flexible incentive mechanism that prioritizes specific types of economic activity, apps, or vendors, with clear limits and governance oversight.

    Motivation:
     Currently, all Featured App Reward Markers receive equal treatment in the reward distribution process. However, as the network evolves, we need tools to:

    • Encourage adoption of privacy-preserving asset transfers over public CC transfers.

    • Promote specific high-value activities or workflows.

    • Support targeted apps or vendors that drive strategic objectives.

    Introducing weighted markers allows the network to dynamically direct incentives toward priority use cases while maintaining transparency and fairness.

    Proposed Changes:

    1. Reward Weighting Mechanism:

      • Each Featured App Marker may have a configurable weight (e.g., 1x, 2x, 0.5x) applied during reward calculations.

      • Weighted markers multiply the reward calculation for a given transaction.

    2. Use Cases for Weighting:

      • Promote private asset transfers to accelerate network rotation away from CC-based activity.

      • Temporarily incentivize specific apps or vendors that align with strategic initiatives.

      • Support experimental workflows or new product categories.

    3. Governance Controls:

      • All weighting decisions must be approved by network governance (e.g., GSF or a designated committee).

      • Weighting rules must be fully transparent and published on-chain.

      • Caps may be set on total rewards per app or per category to prevent disproportionate payouts.

    Benefits:

    • Directs incentives toward network priorities without requiring structural changes to the rewards system.

    • Supports gradual migration from CC to private asset flows.

    • Provides flexibility to adapt rewards as the network matures.

    Next Steps:

    1. Finalize technical specifications with the core engineering team.

    2. Engage the GSF and governance committees for policy input.

    3. Develop implementation plan and draft governance proposal for approval.



    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    --
    Moritz Kiefer
    Architect - Canton Network
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.