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CIP 0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

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  1. #1DrAmandaLMartin11-03-2025source ↗
    Hello,


    In order to move to a vote we are requesting a Super Validator to sponsor the CIP and a second Super Validator to endorse the CIP. 

    Any SV sponsors/endorses or changes needed? 


    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544
    Director of Program Management
  2. #2Eric Saraniecki11-03-2025source ↗
    I see no reason for this to be a CIP

    The Tokenomics committee is currently responsible for designating approved new Validators to the Network and we were discussing how the committee would modify its process of decision making going forward

    The clarification being proposed at the Tokenomics Committee is...

    1. If someone is joining the network as a new Validator operator then the committee will continue to vet those applications on a case by case basis
    2. If someone is joining the network via an existing Validator operator, then there is no need for the committee to vet those applicants, the operator can choose to support its customers as it sees fit 

    The only caveat to #2 is that we are still working on a measured roll out so the committee is recommending that we extend each operator the ability to add 10 Validators at any time and then come back to the group to make sure not growing too quickly


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    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 8:17 AM DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...> wrote:
    Hello,


    In order to move to a vote we are requesting a Super Validator to sponsor the CIP and a second Super Validator to endorse the CIP. 

    Any SV sponsors/endorses or changes needed? 


    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544
    Director of Program Management



    --
    W. Eric Saraniecki
    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  3. #3Wayne Collier11-03-2025source ↗
    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator
  4. #4Eric Saraniecki11-03-2025source ↗
    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

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    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43 AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:
    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator



    --
    W. Eric Saraniecki
    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  5. #5DrAmandaLMartin12-03-2025source ↗
    Hello,


    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

    Thanks,

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544
    Director of Program Management


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    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47 AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:
    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43 AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:
    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator



    --
    W. Eric Saraniecki
    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983
    Digital Asset, creators of Daml

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  6. #6Kinga Bosse12-03-2025source ↗

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

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    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.

  7. #7DrAmandaLMartin12-03-2025source ↗
    Hello,

    In discussing this rather than have personal emails on the form we will generate an alias that will send the email to the contacts you want. This will protect your email while still getting the information. 

    Please see how this is done with MPCH on the form. Let me know if you would like your information there as well!

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544
    Director of Program Management


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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55 AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


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  8. #8Kinga Bosse12-03-2025source ↗

    That is a fantastic idea. Thank you for that.

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_339815185

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 9:54
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

    In discussing this rather than have personal emails on the form we will generate an alias that will send the email to the contacts you want. This will protect your email while still getting the information. 

     

    Please see how this is done with MPCH on the form. Let me know if you would like your information there as well!

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    toggle quoted message Show quoted text

    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.

  9. #9Chris Matturri12-03-2025source ↗
    Hi Amanda can you please include Proof Group here as well:

    Proof Group and we can use my email of chris@...

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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 9:54 AM DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...> wrote:
    Hello,

    In discussing this rather than have personal emails on the form we will generate an alias that will send the email to the contacts you want. This will protect your email while still getting the information. 

    Please see how this is done with MPCH on the form. Let me know if you would like your information there as well!

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544
    Director of Program Management


    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55 AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.

  10. #10Chris Kelly12-03-2025source ↗
    Thanks Amanda, this is a great idea and we would like our information in that format as well.




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    Head of Business Development | Americas

    IntellectEU

    intellecteu.com

    Digital Finance & Emerging Technologies

    +1 215-962-3419

    christopher.kelly@...


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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 9:56 AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    That is a fantastic idea. Thank you for that.

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_339815185

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 9:54
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

    In discussing this rather than have personal emails on the form we will generate an alias that will send the email to the contacts you want. This will protect your email while still getting the information. 

     

    Please see how this is done with MPCH on the form. Let me know if you would like your information there as well!

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.

  11. #11Chris Kelly12-03-2025source ↗
    Hi Amanda - IntellectEU would like to participate as well. Please add christopher.kelly@... and jonathan.mayeur@... 

    Thanks,

    Chris


    Christopher Kelly

    Head of Business Development | Americas

    IntellectEU

    intellecteu.com

    Digital Finance & Emerging Technologies

    +1 215-962-3419

    christopher.kelly@...


    IMPORTANT! This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.



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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55 AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

    signature_2599117472

    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


    This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.digitalasset.com/emaildisclaimer.html. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message.

  12. #12Veronica Augustsson13-03-2025source ↗

    C7 would also like to participate.

    Could you register pinar@... and sophia@...

     

    Thank you!

     

    Veronica

     

     

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    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> On Behalf Of Chris Kelly via lists.sync.global
    Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2025 14:46
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    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

     

    Hi Amanda - IntellectEU would like to participate as well. Please add christopher.kelly@... and jonathan.mayeur@... 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Chris

     


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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

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    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
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    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

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    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


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  13. #13Ryan Trinkle13-03-2025source ↗

    Obsidian Systems would also like to participate.  ryan.trinkle@... nathan.homesley@...

    On 3/13/25 08:04, Veronica Augustsson via lists.sync.global wrote:
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    C7 would also like to participate.

    Could you register pinar@... and sophia@...

     

    Thank you!

     

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    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

     

    Hi Amanda - IntellectEU would like to participate as well. Please add christopher.kelly@... and jonathan.mayeur@... 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Chris

     


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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

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    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP 0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


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  14. #14Chris Kelly18-03-2025source ↗
    Hi All,

    Regarding this CIP, I wanted to get some clarification on Lines 20-23 that state the following:

    20. Existing Validator operators will be authorized to create up to 10 additional Validators for third-party participants.
    21. Third-party applicants wishing to run a Validator will be redirected to an existing operator
    22. Pre-approved operators, such as Kiln, will retain their prior allocations (e.g., 30 Validators).
    23. Operators such as IEU, MPCH, Proof Group, and others already running their own Validators will be given discretion in onboarding third-party Validators.

    Does Line 23 mean that IEU, MPCH and Proof Group can onboard as many third-party validators as they see fit based on their discretion or would they only be authorized to create up to 10 additional Validators for third parties as mentioned in Line 20 for existing operators? If it's the former, then I would suggest that we make this distinction of "Featured Validator Operators" that have the ability to onboard unlimited third-party validators at their discretion, noting that Featured status can be granted after a proven history of effectively running validators.

    Thanks,

    Chris


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    On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 4:28 PM Ryan Trinkle via lists.sync.global <ryan.trinkle=obsidian.systems@...> wrote:

    Obsidian Systems would also like to participate.  ryan.trinkle@... nathan.homesley@...

    On 3/13/25 08:04, Veronica Augustsson via lists.sync.global wrote:

    C7 would also like to participate.

    Could you register pinar@... and sophia@...

     

    Thank you!

     

    Veronica

     

     

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    Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2025 14:46
    To: cip-discuss@...
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

     

    Hi Amanda - IntellectEU would like to participate as well. Please add christopher.kelly@... and jonathan.mayeur@... 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Chris

     


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    IntellectEU

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    Digital Finance & Emerging Technologies

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    On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:55AM Kinga Bosse via lists.sync.global <kinga.bosse=mpch.com@...> wrote:

    Hi Amanda – MPCH would like to participate – kinga.bosse@..., milo.smith@..., matt.mareane@...

     

    Kinga Z. Bosse

    COO|MPCH|www.mpch.com

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    Book time to meet with me

     

     

    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...>
    Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 8:43
    AM
    To: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...>
    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP 0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators

    Hello,

     

     

    We should give contact information at the top of the form for all the existing operators interested in running for others. 

     

    Can I get that contact information to add for those interested? 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dr. Amanda L. Martin
    814-359-6544

    Director of Program Management

     

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:47AM Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    I would think 1 form is enough explaining at the top that it's only an application for new operators and listing contact information for existing operators they can reach out to instead of filling out the form

     

    operators can onboard whoever they would like, the other operators in the network don't need to know who they are 

     

    whitelisting will come from the operator, should just go to the GSF SV in my opinion 

     

    On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:43AM Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    Some questions that it might be useful to clarify:

    * Should there be two forms on the GSF website:
             one for Validator Operators, and
             one for people / organizations seeking an Operator?
      Or would it be better to just make clear that the current form is just to request approval as an Operator? 


    * Can Operators onboard anonymous entities, or will we require unique contact information for the owner / controlling entity of each onboarded node? 

    * Will all the whitelisting requests come from an approved Validator operators, to the SV that originally sponsored that SV Operator


     

    --

    W. Eric Saraniecki

    Co-founder / +1 773 719 1983

    Digital Asset, creators of Daml


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  15. #15Wayne Collier18-03-2025source ↗
    These lines were added from the minutes of the Tokenomics committee / working group meeting. 

    Would a member of the GSF Tokenomics working group / committee like to comment or clarify? 
  16. #16Eric Saraniecki18-03-2025source ↗
    Up to 10 to begin with and then come back to committee to reup your allotment

    We want to make sure we don't flood the system 



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    On Mar 18, 2025, at 12:04 PM, Wayne Collier via lists.sync.global <wayne.collier=digitalasset.com@...> wrote:

    
    These lines were added from the minutes of the Tokenomics committee / working group meeting. 

    Would a member of the GSF Tokenomics working group / committee like to comment or clarify? 

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  17. #17DrAmandaLMartin19-03-2025source ↗
    Hello,

    We had some great conversation on this CIP. We have updated the CIP based on the feedback here and in the GitHub PR. 
     
    We are proposing this as a process CIP, not a change in governance. The goal is clarify the process and answer questions publicly to reduce confusion. 
     
    In order to move to a vote, we are requesting Super Validator Node Owners to sponsor and endorse the CIP.
     
    Any SV Node Owners willing to sponsor/endorse, or are other change needed?
     
  18. #18Eric Saraniecki19-03-2025source ↗
    I still see no reason for this to be a CIP

    I'm not opposed if anyone wants to sponsor 

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    On Mar 19, 2025, at 4:11 PM, DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...> wrote:

    
    Hello,

    We had some great conversation on this CIP. We have updated the CIP based on the feedback here and in the GitHub PR. 
     
    We are proposing this as a process CIP, not a change in governance. The goal is clarify the process and answer questions publicly to reduce confusion. 
     
    In order to move to a vote, we are requesting Super Validator Node Owners to sponsor and endorse the CIP.
     
    Any SV Node Owners willing to sponsor/endorse, or are other change needed?
     

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  19. #19Kinga Bosse19-03-2025source ↗
    Happy to sponsor - MPCH (if needed)

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    From: cip-discuss@... <cip-discuss@...> on behalf of Eric Saraniecki via lists.sync.global <eric=digitalasset.com@...>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 4:29:23 PM
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    Subject: Re: [cip-discuss] CIP-0050 - Controlled Validator Growth Through Trusted Operators
     
    I still see no reason for this to be a CIP

    I'm not opposed if anyone wants to sponsor 

    On Mar 19, 2025, at 4:11 PM, DrAmandaLMartin via lists.sync.global <amartin=linuxfoundation.org@...> wrote:

    
    Hello,

    We had some great conversation on this CIP. We have updated the CIP based on the feedback here and in the GitHub PR. 
     
    We are proposing this as a process CIP, not a change in governance. The goal is clarify the process and answer questions publicly to reduce confusion. 
     
    In order to move to a vote, we are requesting Super Validator Node Owners to sponsor and endorse the CIP.
     
    Any SV Node Owners willing to sponsor/endorse, or are other change needed?
     

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